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Robert Stark talks to James O’Meara about Mysticism After Modernism

1960's, aesthetics, Alan Watts, Aldous Huxley, Aleister Crowley, Alfred Hitchcock, American Culture, Aristocratic Individualism, Art, automation, Basic Income, Bronze Age Pervert, Buddhism, California, capitalism, Carl Jung, Christianity, Cinema, Class, Colin Wilson, conformity, Conspiracy Theories, Consumerism, Corporations, counterculture, Culture, David Lynch, Donald Trump, dreams, Economics, England, Fascism, Franz Kafka, Gnosticism, Greg Johnson, H. P. Lovecraft, History, Hollywood, Homosexuality, Human Bio Diversity, Islam, James O'Meara, Jason Reza Jorjani, Jeffery Mishlove, Journey to Vapor Island, Judaism, Julius Evola, Liberalism, Literature, Managerialism, Marin County, Marquis de Sade, materialism, Media, meditation, Mitch Horowitz, Morality, Mythology, Neoplatonism, Neville Goddard, New Thought, Nietzsche, Occultism, Oscar Wilde, parapsychology, Philosophy, Political Correctness, Politics, Psychology, Religion, Rudolf Steiner, Science, Sexuality, Socialism, spirituality, Stanley Kubrick, Sufism, Surrealism, Theosophy, Third Way Economics, Traditionalism, Transcendentalism, Transhumanism, Utopia, Vaporfornia, William S. Burroughs

Robert Stark speaks with James O’Meara about his book, Mysticism After Modernism: Crowley, Evola, Neville, Watts, Colin Wilson, & Other Populist Gurus. Mysticism After Modernism is published by Manticore Press, where it is available for purchase. You can also find it at Counter-Currents and on Amazon.

“Our spirituality has gotten too tame today. James J. O’Meara has a solution [in Mysticism After Modernism]
–Mitch Horowitz, PEN Award-winning author of Occult America and The Miracle Club

-The intersection of mysticism with politics and culture, and how mysticism is available to any political persuasion
-Countering the Hippie-dippy liberal  stereotype about New Age gurus
-Critiquing the reactionary who passively accepts cycles of decay, and the need to embrace infinite possibilities
-A practical take on magic/mysticism, in regards to enacting real world change
-Aleister Crowley’s definition of magic as transforming the World in accordance with one’s will
-Examples of opinions and attributes of Alan Watts and William Burroughs that come across as anti-liberal
-Greg Johnson’s article, “The Spiritual Materialism of Alan Watts: A Review of Does It Matter?”
-Watts’ ties to quasi-fascist Serbian mystic, Dimitrije Mitrinović
–New Thought, and an explanation for how Neville Goddard’s Law of Assumption works
-New Thought as a vehicle for political change, by removing all mental constraints
-Why Theosophy is the theology best adapted to hereditarianism (eg. illiberal pluralism)
-William Burroughs’ obsession with rejecting control in a metaphysical sense
–The Greek Qabalah, hidden esoteric traditions in Abrahamic faiths
-Colin Wilson’s practical mysticism, focused on expanding consciousness
-Parapsychology and Spiritual Science
-The need for spiritual elitism and Aristocratic Radicalism
-Robert’s novel, Vaporfornia, which has themes relating to New Thought
-James’ book, Passing the Buck: Coleman Francis and Other Cinematic Metaphysicians

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Robert Stark talks to Keith Preston about Rudolf Steiner

Academia, Aleister Crowley, American Culture, Anarchism, Aristocratic Individualism, Art, Austria, capitalism, Carl Jung, Christianity, Consumerism, Culture, decentralization, Despair, Distributism, dreams, Drugs, Economics, Emile Durkheim, Enlightenment, ethnopluralism, Eugenics, Fascism, Germany, Gnosticism, Hinduism, History, Human Bio Diversity, Jeffery Mishlove, Julius Evola, Keith Preston, localism, Managerialism, Marxism, materialism, Matthew Pegas, Morality, Nationalism, neo-tribalism, Neoliberalism, Nietzsche, Occultism, parapsychology, Philosophy, Political Correctness, Politics, Psychology, Rationalism, Religion, Robert Putnam, Rudolf Steiner, Science, social capital, Social Isolation, Social Media, social trust, Socialism, spirituality, Surrealism, technology, Thinkers Against Modernity, Third Position, Third Way Economics, Timothy Leary, Traditionalism, Transhumanism

Robert Stark and Matt Pegas talk to Keith Preston about the life and philosophy of Austrian occultist and Renaissance Man, Rudolf Steiner, and what we can learn about Steiner’s ideas to address contemporary problems. Check out Keith Preston’s article, Scientific Spirituality and Ethical Individualism: The Legacy of Rudolf Steiner, and Troy Southgate’s new book, THE SPIRIT UNBOUND: RUDOLF STEINER’S PHILOSOPHY OF FREEDOM. Keith Preston is a historian, social scientist, political analyst, author, lecturer, trends researcher, and the editor of Attack the System. Follow Keith on Twitter.

Topics:

The crisis of modernity as anomie, uprootedness from place, identity, tradition, and social bonds, and its impact on the human psyche
Parallels between the modern existential crisis and that of Steiner’s era
Traditional religion being replaced by new secular religions (eg. social justice, scientism, secular heresies)
Steiner’s belief that spirituality and science are interconnected
Parapsychology, including studies of near death experiences
Comparisons to Carl Jung and Christian mystics, Emanuel Swedenborg and William James
Anti-vaxxers’ fascination with Steiner’s warnings of genetically re-engineering people’s spirituality
Steiner’s views on spiritual races and the Steiner schools becoming a target of cancel culture, though Steiner was staunchly anti-fascist
The limitations of materialism and rationalism, and Steiner’s influence from Romanticism 
Steiner’s philosophical relation to other thinkers, including Julius Evola, Nietzsche, Aleister Crowley, and Martin Buber
How the essence of Steiner’s political philosophy was reconciling the differences  between individualism and rootedness, liberal egalitarianism and tradition, and occultism and ethics
How Steiner favored an economic system like distributism, over capitalism or Marxism, and decentralized local autonomy and identities, over nationalism

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Robert Stark interviews Apex about Systems & Agency

aesthetics, Afghanistan, Alt Center, Alternative Right, American Culture, Apex, Architecture, Banking, capitalism, Cities, Classical Liberalism, Conservatives, Conspiracy Theories, Consumerism, Corporations, Culture, demographics, Distributism, Diversity, Donald Trump, Economics, education, History, Immigration, Imperialism, Leftism, Liberalism, Libertarianism, Managerialism, Marxism, materialism, Morality, neo-tribalism, Neoliberalism, Philosophy, Political Correctness, Politics, Psychology, Radical Center, social capital, Social Isolation, social trust, Socialism, Third Way Economics, Urbanism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark and Apex talk about Systems, Pan-Enclavism, and the Alt-Center. Apex is a former leftist from a landless North Eastern Native American Tribe, and loosely part of the Post-Left/Post-Right sphere. He describes himself as the “Cartographer of the Simulation and the Architect of Post-America.” Subscribe to Apex’s Substack and follow him on Twitter.

Topics:

Why the Left are Hyper-capitalists
How we can embrace certain leftwing social policies while rejecting the philosophical framework
Systems and Agency
Why All Politics are Identity Politics
Robert’s Proposal for a New Alt-Center which offers a counter-argument to the slippery slope fallacy and O’Sullivan’s First Law with core philosophical principles
Why There is no such thing as a “Private Company” and why The Right is No Home of Mine
Distributism, Adam Smith’s critique of absentee ownership, and why market power matters more than supply and demand
The huge and confusing gap in theorizing power structures
The viability of alternative institutions such as in finance and education
Pan-Enclavism: the case for communal self-determination as a bulwark against mass homogenization
Post Americanism: embracing America as an internal empire
Politics as a cope: The LARPing will continue until morale improves

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Robert Stark interviews Dutch Vlogger Faust

aesthetics, American Culture, Archeofuturism, Architecture, Art, Art Deco, Art Nouveau, automation, Baby Boomers, Banking, Basic Income, Black Lives Matter, Calvinism, capitalism, censorship, Cities, Class, Classical Liberalism, coronavirus, Corporations, Culture, democracy, demographics, Distributism, Donald Trump, Economics, England, Eugenics, Europe, European Nationalism, Faust, Free Trade, Freedom of Speech, Germany, Globalization, History, Identitarianism, Immigration, Imperialism, income inequality, Middle Class, Millennials, Nationalism, Neoliberalism, Netherlands, New Urbanism, Oligarchy, Police, Police State, Political Correctness, Political Parties, Politics, Psychology, Retro Futurism, Skyscrapers, social capital, Socialism, South Africa, Steampunk, Suburbia, Third Way Economics, Traditionalism, Urbanism, Wealth, welfare state, Zoomers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark talks to Dutch Youtuber Faust about Dutch politics, economics, and geo-politics. Faust has an English language political channel, a Dutch language channel Dietse Bazuin, and you can follow him on Twitter. Faust is the publisher of an arts and history magazine that is also called Dietse Bazuin.

Topics:

Advocacy of a Germanic Union as a geopolitical alternative to the EU
The historic rivalry between the British and Dutch
The debate about the origins of capitalism (the Germanic Rhine model of capitalism vs. Anglo/American shareholder capitalism)
Thoughts on Dutch populist figures Geert Wilders  and Thierry Baudet
Faust’s critique of the welfare state and advocacy of building up social networks and economic niches as the solution to economic problems
The impact of American Imperialism on Europe and why Faust wants to disassociate from the American movement
Thoughts on the civil unrest in America, the politics of crisis, and America’s slide into neo-feudalism
“Ok Boomer” – a right wing meme turned left
Faust’s Dutch video on South Africa: Solidariteit met Afrikaners
Archeofuturist Architecture
The impact of architecture and urbanism on psychology and social capital

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Robert Stark interviews Scott Tungay

2020 Riots, Academia, aesthetics, Africa, American Culture, Architecture, Banking, Basic Income, Bernie Sanders, capitalism, China, Christianity, Cities, Class, Classical Liberalism, Conservatives, Consumerism, coronavirus, Crime, Culture, demographics, Donald Trump, Economics, education, England, Environment, Globalization, Healthcare, Immigration, Leftism, Liberalism, Libertarianism, localism, Media, Nationalism, Nature, Neoliberalism, New Urbanism, Overpopulation, Political Correctness, Politics, Race Relations, Religion, Scott Tungay, social capital, social trust, Socialism, South Africa, Southern Agrarians, Suburbia, The American South, Third Position, Third Way Economics, Urbanism, Usury, Wealth, Wilderness

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark talks to Scott Tungay about the current situation in South Africa, the ongoing riots in America, and his views on social capital, land use, and wealth. Scott is originally from KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa and immigrated to Kentucky to be with his American wife. He blogs at Department of Winning, has a Youtube channel with his wife Kelli, and is also on Twitter.

Topics:

Scott’s background, like many English South Africans, growing up believing in the Rainbow nation narrative and classical liberal values
How immigrating to America lit a nationalist spark
Scott’s passion for homesteading and Permaculture
Scott’s admiration for conservationist Wendell Berry and the Southern Agrarians
How Scott is currently stuck in South Africa which has one of the most draconian Lockdowns in the world
How the lockdown could be used as a power grab by the ANC, with businesses foreclosing, and a planned expropriation of White property
Why South Africa will fall, like Yugoslavia | With Scott Tungay by Willem Petzer
Different scenarios for South Africa, including a partition into smaller nations, Chinese intervention, and why a Rwandan scenario is unlikely
How most White South Africans are looking to emigrate
The ongoing riots in America, and why Scott thinks America is 20-30 years away from where South Africa is now
The media narrative about race relations, divide and conquer strategy, and long term un-sustainability due to economic breakdown
The failure of conservatism, and opportunity for a Third Position that is localist, anti-usury, and anti-globalist
The missed mashup that could have happened between Bernie and Trump
The Back–to-the-land movement and New Urbanism as alternatives to the commercial squalor that destroyed small town Americana
How the lockdown proves the value of family and community over the corporate rat race
Economic Class Dynamics: The significance, slave, and survival economy
The importance of aesthetics: how beauty elicits care
The limits of meritocracy: how future economic survival will depend upon one’s In-group

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Robert Stark talks to Paul Tripp about his proposal for a Green New Right

Africa, Alternative Right, American Culture, Asia, automation, Banking, capitalism, China, Cities, Class, Conservatives, coronavirus, Culture, demographics, Donald Trump, ecofascism, Economics, education, energy, Environment, Eugenics, Feminism, Gender, Global Warming, Globalization, Immigration, income inequality, IQ, Leftism, Liberalism, Literature, Nationalism, Nature, neo-tribalism, Neoliberalism, Overpopulation, Paul Tripp, Post-scarcity economy, Richard Dawkins, Socialism, Suburbia, the New Right, Third Position, Third Way Economics, Urbanism, Usury

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark talks to Unz review writer about his proposal for The Green New Right. Paul is also the author of Psionism.

Topics:

Paul’s critique of the Left’s handling of environmental issues
The focus on carbon emissions and the degree to which climate change is responsible for habitat loss
The Left’s focus on the West while ignoring ecological devastation in the developing world
The Left’s lack of concern for overpopulation in the developing world while telling Westerners to reduce their birthrates
Mass immigration’s impact on ecological footprints
Education, IQ, and Fertility
The need for rural revitalization for the new green economy
How sustainable agriculture would need a much larger and higher skilled workforce
The mainstream right’s neglect of environmentalism
How economic nationalism and tariffs would help end the exploitation of resources by global capitalism
The environmental origins of the coronavirus pandemic
The problems of a consumption based economic model
Why profits should be based upon reciprocity
One-Third of American Workers Pay Is Being Stolen. Here’s How
The decline in workers’ purchasing power
Why the Financialization of the economy is a bigger issue than labor supply
Paul’s book Psionism about rejecting an imposed mono culture in favor of neo-tribalism

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Robert Stark talks to Guillaume Durocher about the Yellow Vests & National Economics

Alain Soral, Anatoly Karlin, Banking, capitalism, Class, Communism, Crime, Cuba, Culture, demographics, Economics, Elections, Emmanuel Macron, energy, Europe, European Nationalism, France, Front National, Globalization, Guillaume Durocher, Hungary, Immigration, income inequality, Jean Mélenchon, Latin America, Leftism, Marine Le Pen, Nationalism, Neoliberalism, Oligarchy, Paris, Police, Police Brutality, Police State, Politics, Russia, Socialism, terrorism, Third Position, Third Way Economics, Wealth, Yellow Vests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark and Anatoly Karlin talk to Alt-French Unz Review blogger  about the Yellow Vest Protests, political situation in France, and National Economics.

Topics:

The gas tax as largely symbolic for overall populist discontent
Macron’s Neoliberal economic polices
Decentralized nature of the movement
The culture of protest in France
The role of the police(update: Police Deploy Rifles with Live Ammunition to Yellow Vest Protests)
The White Working Class demographic
Fusion of Left and Right Populism and support from both nationalist Le Pen and leftist Mélenchon supporters
How the outcome of the Yellow Vest protests will impact the next election
Why movements need a segment of the elite to succeed
Russian and American(ex. Steve Bannon) conspiracy theories
Orbánomics, or the Return of National Economics
National Economic policies such as state control of banks, national banks, and local production
The Economics of Globalism and High vs. Low Globalism
Left Wing French Social Nationalist Alain Soral
France Is Becoming More Violent

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Robert Stark talks to Giovanni Dannato about Pragmatic Dissidence

aesthetics, Alt Center, Alternative Right, American Culture, Art, Basic Income, Bernie Sanders, Brandon Adamson, Calvinism, capitalism, Cities, Class, Conservatives, Corporations, Crime, Culture, demographics, Donald Trump, Economics, Futurism, gentrification, Giovanni Dannato, Healthcare, Human Bio Diversity, Incels, income inequality, Leftism, Liberalism, Libertarianism, Literature, Loserdom, Mass Transit, Middle Class, NEETs, New Urbanism, Personality Types, Politics, Post-scarcity economy, Radical Center, Sexuality, social capital, Social Darwinism, Socialism, Third Way Economics, Urbanism, Wealth, welfare state

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Giovanni Dannato blogs at Colony of Commodus and is the author of APOSTASY and A Kingdom For the Introvert. Follow Giovanni on Twitter.

Topics:

Giovanni’s New Alt-Dissident Fantasy Fiction
The theme of Heaven and Hell as an analogy for those who are within the system and those outside of it
The importance of creating a cultural vision beyond political policies
Alt-Centrist Scum Will Rise
The importance of focusing on what works over having a rigid ideology
There’s No Power Without “Downward Distribution”
How wealth distribution has a history going back to Ancient Mesopotamia
The flaws of conservative individualism and why people must co-operate as tribes
The limited demographic of conservationism and how to create a broader coalition
Rejecting both Right Wing Social Darwinism and Left Wing Egalitarianism
How to effectively distribute wealth(ex. Smart Socialism and State Capitalism)
How to effectively take care of mediocre people and the “losers” of society
Why economic “handouts” are necessary to gain political support and maintain a functional society
How better urban planning can address economic and class problems
The concept of the urban gene shredder and how to address it
The importance of having a leisure economy for innovation
The need for a specialized economy that utilizes a wide variety of personality types

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Robert Stark talks about The YIMBY Movement & The Alt-Center

aesthetics, Alt Center, Alternative Left, Alternative Right, American Culture, Architecture, Black Culture, California, Cartrell Payne, Cities, Class, Conservatives, Crime, Culture, decentralization, demographics, Donald Trump, Dystopia, Economics, Environment, Falling Down, Film, gentrification, Historic Preservation, Huey Long, Immigration, income inequality, John C. Portman Jr, Las Vegas, Leftism, Liberalism, Libertarianism, Los Angeles, Malibu, Market Urbanism, Mass Transit, Middle Class, New Urbanism, New York, Norman Mailer, Oligarchy, Police, Police Brutality, Police Corruption, Police State, Political Parties, Politics, Pornography, Portland, Race Relations, Radical Center, San Francisco, Silicon Valley, Skyscrapers, Suburbia, SWPL, The Adventure Kid, The American South, Third Way Economics, Twin Peaks, Urbanism, Wealth, Zoning

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark joined with Cartrell Payne(aka The Adventure Kid) to discuss the YIMBY movement, the Alt-Center, and how those issues relate.

Topics:

California Senator Scott Wiener’s housing-transit measure Derailed
Factions of the YIMBY movement including left leaning housing advocates, real estate developers, and the Market Urbanist
Left Wing anti-gentrification activists and their alliance with NIMBY’s
Cartrell’s observations on gentrification in Memphis, Tennessee
The hypocrisy of pro-immigration Limousine Liberal NIMBY’s, and how that combination exacerbates the housing crisis
How the YIMBY movement is also very pro immigration
Income Inequality in California and the mass exodus of the middle class
The film Falling Down which is set in LA in the early 90’s and a warning of a dystopian future
What makes California great and can it be saved?
The New Great Migration of Black Americans back to The South
White Middle Class Conservative NIMBY’s, their motivations, and how they are sabotaging their own self interest
Why YIMBYism and immigration restriction are compatible, and why the Alt-Center should take up those causes
Why YIMBYs need to address aesthetic concerns
Why YIMBYism is compatible with environmental and historic preservation
Citylab and City Journal; their writings on urbanism and political agendas
Why mass transit is inefficient in LA and other Sun Belt cities
The political and cultural flaws of both Blue and Red States
A vision of an Alt Center which include alternative economics, pro middle class policies, New Urbanism, environmentalism, SWPL culture, and socially centrist
Cartrell’s political orientation as an Old School Southern Democrat minus the racism
Cartrell’s critique of both the Black Liberal Establishment and Black Conservatives
Conservative views on the poor and police issues and Conservative Class Cucks
The early 20th Century Populist movement
Norman Mailer’s plan for breaking up New York City which addressed both the concerns of the Left and the Right

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Robert Stark interviews DECAY about Politics & Urbanism

1980's, 80's music, aesthetics, Alt Center, Alternative Left, Alternative Right, American Culture, Architecture, arcology, Basic Income, Berkeley, Brandon Adamson, California, capitalism, Cities, City-State System, Culture, DECAY, demographics, Donald Trump, Economics, Environment, Futurism, gentrification, Healthcare, Immigration, Italian Futurism, Lafayette CA, Leftism, Liberalism, Libertarianism, Malls, Mass Transit, Meta Politics, misanthropy, Monterey CA, Music, Nationalism, New Retro Wave, New Urbanism, New York, Oakland, Orinda CA, Overpopulation, Political Correctness, Politics, Retro Futurism, San Francisco, Santa Cruz, Seattle, Silicon Valley, Socialism, South Africa, Space Travel, Suburbia, Synthwave, technology, The Black Pill, Third Way Economics, Traditionalism, Urbanism, Walnut Creek CA, Wilderness

Check out Decay’s blog, his writings for Brandon Adamson’s AltLeft.com, and Twitter profile.

Topics:

The Orientation of D E C A Y’s Political Views
DECAY’s outlook on human dynamics can be described as “right-wing”, but without stereotypical “right-wing” stances, such as laissez-faire free-market economics or moral traditionalism
DECAY’s left Wing stances on environmental and public health regulations, worker and consumer protections, and a social safety net
Alt-Apoliticism
Meta Politics
The Bearer of “Trad” News
A post American perspective
Futurism and technological progress
Predicting Future Trends
Independent City States
Where Should One Live?
Urban neighborhoods, Sreetcar Suburbs, Retrofitted Suburbs, Small Towns, College Towns, and the reemergence of the village model, where people live in close proximity to where they work, shop and recreate
Growing up in the San Francisco Bay Area and thoughts on the region’s cities, suburbs, and wilderness
The need for a balance between urbanism and wilderness
Retro Futurism and an affinity for 80’s Synthwave

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