Category Archives: Distributism

Robert Stark interviews Mr. Raven 

 

Mr. Raven is a late GenXer who lives in a wilderness area and makes laser cut paper art.  Subscribe to his Substack, Whisper from the Trees.

Topics include:
-How rural areas are treated like internal colonies
-How the rural vs urban divide plays out in dissident politics
Sam Francis’ Leviathan and Its Enemies and James’ Burnham’s Managerial Revolution
-The class divide in dissident politics
The smart but poor demographic who don’t fit in with proles
-How both Robert and Mr. Raven share a downwardly mobile upper class and bohemian background
-Whether America has any aristocratic attributes as a mercantile nation
The formation of ethnic and cultural enclavism
-How an economic downturn could accelerate enclavism
-Whether enclavism would lead to neo-feudalism
-Why Mr. Raven is skeptical of Curtis Yarvin’s idea of corporate run enclaves
-Why distributism and mutualism are superior economic systems to capitalism and socialism
-Mr. Raven’s essay on Medieval Craft Guilds
-How guilds can address problems of jobs, education, and credentialism
-The need for a tripartite system where different social castes share power
-Misconceptions about the High Middle Ages
-Hans Hermann Hoppe’s, Democracy: The God That Failed, a defense of decentralized aristocracy over centralized democracy
-How resource scarcity could breakdown mass society in the future
Whether technology will continue to be a force for centralization in the future
Mr. Raven’s essay on beauty and the role of aesthetics in politics and society
-How America undervalues aesthetics as a hustler society
-Why old money people are superior to new money strivers
-How old money vs new money struggles play out in politics
-The class dynamics in California
-Mr. Raven’s observations on living in San Francisco in 1991
-Why neither Robert nor Mr. Raven voted for Trump
-The case for Trump as a placeholder for preventing the other side from doing bad things
-The economics of the arts
-The problem of conservatives and populists being philistines on art and culture
-Art fascists, Wyndham Lewis, Ezra Pound, and the Italian Futurists
-The segment of the dissident right that is more culturally sophisticated
-Why Enclavism needs a pluralist dualism of diverse downtowns with homogenous bedroom communities

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Robert Stark interviews Meta Ronin about Esoteric AI

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Topics include:

-How the moniker means a nomad like Ronin and Meta means transcending the greater truth
-Robert’s article on Techno Distributism
-The ineptitude of luddites and why we should embrace automation
-The case for UBI and the value of leisure
-The role of status and competition in a post-scarcity society
-The mentality of “I had to suffer so now you have to suffer too”
Ray Kurzweil’s Moore’s Law
-Meta Ronin’s advocacy of Robot Waifus
-How AI GFs can serve as the Jungian anima, or inner feminine
-The Gamma male archetype
-How AI can be used for Jungian Shadow Work
-AI as a tool for Parapsychology/Spiritual Science to point to cosmic truths
-Creating a new Brahmin caste by brain-scanning people for spiritual responses
A dystopian proposal to use magnets to rewire brains to make people less racist and religious
-Uploading consciousness to AI
-Meta Ronin’s interest in Daoism and Shintoism
-How religion is shaped by genetics
-Whether AI will become conscious/sentient
-Why AI will be good for offering everyone a specialized path
-Meta’s Ronin’s ideal urban model
-Beauty aesthetics as a value and hierarchy: order to sensory input on instinctual level
-Automation creating Darwinian bottlenecks
-Ethnogenesis forming between Whites and Asians
-The eugenic implications of artificial wombs
-The Silicon Valley neo-reactionaries
-Aristocratic reasons for opposing consumer capitalism and mass democracy
-Meta Ronin’s upcoming sci-fi novel
-Dystopian scenarios, such as a Chinese-style social credit system
The Stellar Engine
-Kurzweil’s Age of Spiritual Machines
-Terrance McKenna’s Transcendental Object at the End of Time

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Walt Bismarck interviews me about Rightwing Multiculturalism

This is a simulcast with Walt Bismarck’s Walt Right podcast.

Topics include:

  • Robert’s political trajectory coming out of the Ron Paul movement
  • Robert’s Jewish heritage
  • His thoughts on the political position of American Jews since the Gaza War
  • How the boredom of the Biden years has created a less tense environment
  • How recent years have driven a wedge between the Left and Liberals
  • How anti-Whiteness led to an explosion of antisemitism on the Left
  • Has the boundary between Jews and Whites blurred over the past few years?
  • How Walt was able to mainstream himself without denouncing the Alt Right
  • The tenability of Right Wing Multiculturalism and Castizo Futurism
  • How comfortable is Walt with immigration?
  • The resentment towards Brahmin Indians growing in Silicon Valley
  • White people in America need to form the same ethnic patronage networks as immigrant ethnic groups
  • How Walt misjudged the Midwest
  • Arizona vs. Florida vs. California
  • The hyper-individualistic nature of White Californians
  • California as an American “promised land” and the most beautiful place on earth
  • DeSantis’s efforts to position Florida as the new California
  • Why did DeSantis fail?
  • Brain drain from California to Florida
  • Why has Florida supplanted Texas as the conservative hub?
  • The decentralized modern Dissident Right vs. the old Alt Right
  • Nick Fuentes vs. the “Post-Left” Dimes Square / Red Square crowd
  • Why are Hispanics in California/Arizona more leftist than in Florida/Texas?
  • How personal temperament impacts a person’s politics
  • The median Alt Righter was actually less racist on a visceral level than the average ”colorblind” conservative
  • Colorblindness is responsible for the worst of the Left and the Right
  • Moral implications of belief in HBD
  • How much should you talk about HBD?
  • Emil Kirkegaard’s study on taboos
  • Respects in which Walt is rightwing
  • Walt’s centrism on abortion and hatred for pro-life maximalists
  • Robert’s futurist concept of distributism
  • Why immigration restriction basically requires mass automation
  • Walt’s idea for a “grand bargain” where illegal immigrants are given legal status in exchange for a guarantee that they will never be given the right to vote
  • The case for a Rightwing Urbanism and pro-White YIMBYism
  • Do you need restricted covenants etc. to sell YIMBYism to suburbanites?
  • Is NIMBYism necessary to prevent a mass brain drain from the interior?
  • Gentrification as the future of the right and the opposite of White Flight
  • Walt’s desire for a “High Openness Right” that resembles the early Alt Right
  • Why conservatives suck at art
  • HBO’s Girls and The Sopranos as conservative art
  • Painting as a metaphor for ethno-pluralism
  • Robert Stark’s stance on AI Art
  • How Walt used Disney songs to explain the Alt Right, and how this resembles how Lin Manuel Miranda’s use of rap to explain the Founding Fathers
  • How key changes are used to create an emotional impact in music, especially show tunes and 80s music
  • Why do the 80s resonate with Millennial guys so much?
  • Walt’s pro-white argument for reparations
  • Walt’s support for animal rights and lab grown meat
  • Will future societies look back on factory farms the same way we look at slavery?
  • High IQ people need a self-selected bubble where they don’t have to “hold frame”
  • We’re not all gonna make it—that’s just part of being a man
  • The modern world is much better for high IQ autistic guys like Walt and Robert
  • How Tinder increased the incel rate from 15% to 30%
  • What makes someone “smart but poor?” What is Walt’s advice for this demo?
  • Building an income on Substack—Walt and Robert’s strategies
  • How building a social media presence is like feudalism

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Robert Stark talks to Keith Preston about Rudolf Steiner

Robert Stark and Matt Pegas talk to Keith Preston about the life and philosophy of Austrian occultist and Renaissance Man, Rudolf Steiner, and what we can learn about Steiner’s ideas to address contemporary problems. Check out Keith Preston’s article, Scientific Spirituality and Ethical Individualism: The Legacy of Rudolf Steiner, and Troy Southgate’s new book, THE SPIRIT UNBOUND: RUDOLF STEINER’S PHILOSOPHY OF FREEDOM. Keith Preston is a historian, social scientist, political analyst, author, lecturer, trends researcher, and the editor of Attack the System. Follow Keith on Twitter.

Topics:

The crisis of modernity as anomie, uprootedness from place, identity, tradition, and social bonds, and its impact on the human psyche
Parallels between the modern existential crisis and that of Steiner’s era
Traditional religion being replaced by new secular religions (eg. social justice, scientism, secular heresies)
Steiner’s belief that spirituality and science are interconnected
Parapsychology, including studies of near death experiences
Comparisons to Carl Jung and Christian mystics, Emanuel Swedenborg and William James
Anti-vaxxers’ fascination with Steiner’s warnings of genetically re-engineering people’s spirituality
Steiner’s views on spiritual races and the Steiner schools becoming a target of cancel culture, though Steiner was staunchly anti-fascist
The limitations of materialism and rationalism, and Steiner’s influence from Romanticism 
Steiner’s philosophical relation to other thinkers, including Julius Evola, Nietzsche, Aleister Crowley, and Martin Buber
How the essence of Steiner’s political philosophy was reconciling the differences  between individualism and rootedness, liberal egalitarianism and tradition, and occultism and ethics
How Steiner favored an economic system like distributism, over capitalism or Marxism, and decentralized local autonomy and identities, over nationalism

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Robert Stark interviews Apex about Systems & Agency

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark and Apex talk about Systems, Pan-Enclavism, and the Alt-Center. Apex is a former leftist from a landless North Eastern Native American Tribe, and loosely part of the Post-Left/Post-Right sphere. He describes himself as the “Cartographer of the Simulation and the Architect of Post-America.” Subscribe to Apex’s Substack and follow him on Twitter.

Topics:

Why the Left are Hyper-capitalists
How we can embrace certain leftwing social policies while rejecting the philosophical framework
Systems and Agency
Why All Politics are Identity Politics
Robert’s Proposal for a New Alt-Center which offers a counter-argument to the slippery slope fallacy and O’Sullivan’s First Law with core philosophical principles
Why There is no such thing as a “Private Company” and why The Right is No Home of Mine
Distributism, Adam Smith’s critique of absentee ownership, and why market power matters more than supply and demand
The huge and confusing gap in theorizing power structures
The viability of alternative institutions such as in finance and education
Pan-Enclavism: the case for communal self-determination as a bulwark against mass homogenization
Post Americanism: embracing America as an internal empire
Politics as a cope: The LARPing will continue until morale improves

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Robert Stark interviews Dutch Vlogger Faust

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark talks to Dutch Youtuber Faust about Dutch politics, economics, and geo-politics. Faust has an English language political channel, a Dutch language channel Dietse Bazuin, and you can follow him on Twitter. Faust is the publisher of an arts and history magazine that is also called Dietse Bazuin.

Topics:

Advocacy of a Germanic Union as a geopolitical alternative to the EU
The historic rivalry between the British and Dutch
The debate about the origins of capitalism (the Germanic Rhine model of capitalism vs. Anglo/American shareholder capitalism)
Thoughts on Dutch populist figures Geert Wilders  and Thierry Baudet
Faust’s critique of the welfare state and advocacy of building up social networks and economic niches as the solution to economic problems
The impact of American Imperialism on Europe and why Faust wants to disassociate from the American movement
Thoughts on the civil unrest in America, the politics of crisis, and America’s slide into neo-feudalism
“Ok Boomer” – a right wing meme turned left
Faust’s Dutch video on South Africa: Solidariteit met Afrikaners
Archeofuturist Architecture
The impact of architecture and urbanism on psychology and social capital

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Robert Stark & Matt Pegan discuss the California Ballot Initiatives

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Topics:

California’s tradition of ballot propositions, the pros and cons of direct democracy, and Christopher Lasch’s The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy
Geographic breakdown of ideology in California (political ideology map)
Proposition 14 on Stem Cell research which is no longer restricted federally (No)
Proposition 15 on taxing commercial real estate at market value which would be good for urbanism (Yes)
Proposition 16 on Affirmative Action which is divisive and a form of austerity (No)
Expanding voting:  Proposition 17 which restores voter rights for felons (Robert Yes, Matt No) and Proposition 18 (No)
Proposition 19 which would exacerbate the Intergenerational Wealth Gap (No)
Proposition 20 which restricts parole (No on one size fits all crime bills)
Proposition 21: concern that rent control could limit the supply of new housing (No)
Proposition 22 on the Gig Economy (No)
Proposition 23 on requiring physicians for dialysis clinics (No)
Proposition 24 which lacks the support from key tech advocacy groups and could be a wolf in sheep’s clothing (No)
Proposition 25: replaces cash bail with risk assessment (Yes)
California congressional elections, True Con Republicans, and notable Democratic candidates including Shahid Buttar running against Pelosi and Yang Democrat David Kim
Robert’s presidential endorsement of Brian Carroll of the American Solidarity Party and Matt’s tepid backing of Trump
Trump’s missed opportunities for another stimulus and to challenge Biden on populist grounds
Why Biden’s return to normalcy is an insult to voters

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Robert Stark talks to Bay Area Guy about Bullshit Jobs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark talks to Bay Area Guy about Bullshit Jobs: A Theory by David Graeber and his Review of Bullshit Jobs published on Alt of Center.

Topics:

Bay Area Guy’s background in blogging at the defunct Occident Invicta and move to the left economically
David Graeber’s background as a left wing anarchist and involvement with Occupy Wall Street and the anti-globalization protests of the late 90’s
Bullshit Jobs as the culmination of The Managerial Revolution
Neo-feudalistic economy based on extracting wealth and distributing it to underlings who maintain the system
Loyalty to the system more important than productivity or innovation
How the system is held together for political and moral imperatives rather than economic
A leisure economy and subsidies such as a basic income as necessary for innovation
The argument that handouts will make people lazy does not take into account the need for status and feeling useful
The moral imperative that value comes from work
Graeber‘s belief in compensating work that benefits the common good
90’s comedy Office Space as a parody of dehumanizing corporate culture
Despite automation don’t underestimate late capitalism’s ability to create more bullshit jobs
Parallels between conservatives calling the poor entitled and SJWs’ “check your privilege”
Bay Area Guy’s support for Bernie Sanders from the beginning and dissident right’s disappointment with Trump
Kamala Harris’ regressive Neoliberal record of harsh justice for the rabble and impunity for elites

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Robert Stark talks to Ashley Messinger about Roger Blackstone & The Politics of AESTHETICS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roger Blackstone is a fictional presidential candidate in Robert Stark’s novel Journey to Vapor Island.

Topics:

Ashley’s article Roger Blackstone: The Politics of Aesthetics
Roger Blackstone’s ideology as a psychedelic futurist form of social nationalism
Roger Blackstone utilizing capitalism as a real estate mogul to rise to power
Roger Blackstone’s Utopian visions in contrast with Trump who has been a major disappointment
Roger Blackstone’s campaign commercial
“Advancing civilization and furthering human progress” implies a rejection of the NRx reading of history (inverted Whig view) and assumes that some forms of progress are actually meaningful
Basing political ideology on aesthetic values
New Urbanism and the necessity of creating aesthetically pleasant living spaces
The idea that simple libertarianism is just not enough and we need to create intentional communities for every possible group
The 1980’s Retro Futuristic theme; “Neon Nationalism”
Roger Blackstone’s idea of making humans, rather than just art and architecture, the subject of aesthetic concern
Roger’s Blackstone’s economic views and support for a basic income
The power to completely re-engineer the human genome to enhance human potential(Transhumanism)
The book The Chemical Muse about the prevalence of drugs(especially entheogens) in pre-modern societies, and the importance of drug use to a lot of artists and anti-conformists
Roger Blackstone’s father Alistair and his manifesto “Why The True Aristocrat Must Rule”
The notion of a natural aristocracy(ex. Ralph Waldo Emerson and HL Mencken)
The term “Aristocratic Radicalism” pops up, which has been used to describe Friedrich Nietzsche’s philosophy
Similarities to Alistair Crowley’s concept of “Aristocratic Communism,” where society is geared towards empowering those who are naturally non-conformists, artists, and intellectuals
There is some evidence that Alistair is sympathetic to distributive economic philosophies, because capitalism has this stifling effect on the creative class
The mock presidential debate scene where Noam has to represent Roger Blackstone against the Democrat, Republican, and Libertarian
The growing trend of political fusionism
The importance of using fiction to influence political discourse

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Robert Stark interviews Ashley Messinger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Stark and co-host Brandon Adamson talk to ASHLEY MESSINGER. Ashley is based in the UK and writes for Brandon’s AltLeft.com. You can also find Ashley on Twitter.

Topics:

Why Brandon’s moniker is now “The Left of the AltRight”
Ashley’s political evolution to the Alt Left(Left Wing of the Alt-Right)
Ashley’s disillusionment with the Alt-Right
The immigration and demographic situation in the UK
Radical Islam, the Charlie Hebdo Massacre, and the Rotherham scandal
The ineptitude of Right Wing politics in the UK
Ashley’s preference for SWPL cultural amenities
Retro-Futurism
Whether there is a large enough demographic for a “Red Pilled” SWPL movement
Misconceptions about English culture
The Thacherite Neo-Liberal de-industrialization of the UK
Ashley’s support for a secular form of Distributism
Luck egalitarianism 
The Signalling Model of Education 
Automation and the Basic Income
The Techno Futurist faction of Neo-Reaction
Effective Altruism
Technogaianism
Ashley’s article The Push to Normalize Polonophilia

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