Robert Stark and co-host Pilleater, Bay Area Guy, and Rabbit talk to alt-left YouTuber Prince of Queens about Alt-left philosophy and economic issues.
Topics:
Prince of Queens’ discovery of the Alt-left
The “Milo of the Alt Left?”
Prince of Queens’ vote for Jill Stein, and why he viewed Clinton as much worse than Trump
Rabbit appears 6 minutes in
A foundation for the Alt-left
Is the Alt-left, “the left-wing faction of the Alt-Right?”
Rationalism and the skeptic community
Bay Area Guy’s point that the Alt-Right has neglected economic issues, which are crucial to millenials
Books on economics including Michael Hudson’s Killing the Host, Ha-Joon Chang’s 23 Things They Don’t Tell You About Capitalism, Dean Baker’s Rigged, and Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus
Why corporations must have incentives to invest in their communities
Prices for housing and causes of the housing crisis
Prince of Queen’s personal story about renting in the Bay Area The FIRE Economy, and the importance of distinguishing between productive earned income and parasitic unearned income
Corporate control and private-sector oppression
Mundane working, productivity, and income
The Basic Income
Student loan debt
The need for debt forgiveness
Slavery to work, Job distribution, and Ponzi schemes
Economic trolling
Robert Stark and co-host Pilleater talk to Charles Marohn. Charles is a Professional Engineer (PE) licensed in the State of Minnesota and a member of the American Institute of Certified Planners (AICP). Chuck is the Founder and President of Strong Towns. He has a Bachelor’s degree in Civil Engineering from the University of Minnesota’s Institute of Technology and a Masters in Urban and Regional Planning from the University of Minnesota’s Humphrey Institute.
Topics:
How Charles’s background in urban planning exposed him to the problems of sprawl development
Charles’s books Thoughts on Building Strong Towns, Volume 1 & Volume II
The fiscal unsustainability of sprawl development
Charles’ point that the key factor in urbanism is Incremental Development
Charles’s point that cities must be viewed as ecosystems
The “build it they will come” fallacy, and how traditionally massive infrastructure projects were designed to serve existing population centers(ex.Roman Aqueducts)
How pre-automobile cities tend to be the most viable
Nassim Taleb’s Antifragile theory, and how it relates to urbanism The Density Question, Charles point that density should neither be fetishized nor seen as inherently bad, but must take into account incremental development
How cities such as New York and San Francisco have value independent of their economies, while places like the Silicon Valley would become unviable if their industries collapsed
Zoning laws and land use regulations
The movement to Retrofit Suburbia, how it’s a step in the right direction, but has it’s limitations
How cities will contract in the future, with people living in both cities and towns, but that it’s the space in between that’s unviable
Micro Apartments
Political divides, and how when it comes to planning issues on a local level, people tend to be more pragmatic than dogmatic
The Public vs. Private sector role in infrastructure, and how Charles’s point that things that are high risk should be in the private sector, and low risk in the public sector(ex. Wall Street baillouts)
The role of the government in historic preservation and protecting the environment
Housing and affordable family formation
The Hollywood imagery and outsider stereotypes of LA
The history of LA
How LA’s urban core is spread out over a large geographic area from Santa Monica on the Coast to Downtown LA
Robert’s disclaimer that the photos capture the best of LA, but that most of the spaces in between are unappealing due to the cities sprawl
LA’s transit system
South Central LA
West Hollywood, and Rabbit’s experience living there
Downtown LA, the gentrification of the historic core, the grittiness and vintage signage of Broadway, and the Serial Killers Who Haunted The Cecil Hotel
Downtown LA’s architecture including John Portman’s Bonaventure Hotel, and the the 80’s Art Deco revivalHome Savings Building where Charles Lincoln worked
Beverly Hills, the 80’s futurist Rodeo Collection, the “Vaporwave” Roman Fountain , and the the 70 futurist/late modernistRoxbury Plaza Century City, which originally had a 60’s futurist aesthetic, was the the film location of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, and the Century City Mall
1980’s Malls including the Beverly Center(Original image), Westside Pavilion, which reminds Pilleater of the game Myst, and the renovation of those malls which ruined their aesthetic
Historic preservation trends starting with demolition of the Art Deco Richfield Tower in Downtown LA, to the lack of preservation for 80’s architecture today
New architecture inspired by past styles including the new Streamline ModerneUnder construction Beverly Hilton tower, 70’s futurist inspired renderings for skyscrapers, and Rabbit’s observation that many apartments are being retrofited in mid-century modern styles
Santa Monica, the waterfront, architecture including the Art Deco Clock Tower, and Santa Monica NIMBY Restriction on heights
The Interactive Cafe, which is one of the last surviving independent businesses in downtown Santa Monica, and Pilleater’s point that it has a Cyberpunk aesthetic
The high cost of housing in LA, even in unappealing areas
The San Fernando Valley, which was traditionally home to LA’s middle class
Demographic trends, the destruction of the white middle class, gentrification of the urban core, and new suburban ghettos in the desert
Rabbit’s point about SWPLs he met in LA who look down on the suburban middle class
The Alt Left dilemma between identifying with SWPL Culture, and urbanist aesthetics, and supporting white middle class identitarianism, which often lacks strong aesthetic visions
Robert Stark and co-host Pilleater interview Ronnie Martin. Martin is a pastor, writer, and musician. His bands include Joy Electric, Said Fantasy, The Foxglove Hunt, and Dancehouse Children.
Topics:
Martin’s interest in electronic music and Christianity Substance Church and New Order’s Substance album
The origins of Joy Electric
I Dream of Wires, Plastiq Musiq, New Order vs. Depeche Mode
Electroclash, Electric Youth, Coldwave, Burgundy Years. Birds of North America
C.S Lewis, G.K. Chesterton, Wes Anderson
My Grandfather The Cubist, The Otherly Opus, The Ministry of Archers, Hello Mannequin, Dwarf Mountain Alphabet
Positive philosophy, Album art, Joy Electric aesthetics
Finding God in the Dark, Stop Your Complaining, The Bridezilla of Christrst
Finding faith, patience in God, Romance and religion
Martin’s romance novel
Moog vs. Roland Synthesizers, Said Fantasy’s new album, “Two Lads period”
Martin’s sermon podcast, Church life, Martin’s celebrity status
Christianity in pop music, Romance advice for young people
Jeff’s background in parapsychology, having the only doctorate in the field
Raymond Moody’s“Life After Life,” life after death, near death experiences
The discipline of parapsychology
New Thinking Allowed exclusively on YouTube compared to Thinking Allowed on PBS
The beginning of Thinking Allowed
The synth intro of Thinking Allowed, the possible vaporwave influence of it
Alan Watts, New Age philosophy Terence McKenna, LSD and drug use
Ted Talks and conspiracy theroies The PK Man
The theory of open-consciousness, psychic experiences
Geographic locations with spiritual connections
The audience behind New Thinking Allowed, strange book stores
Transhumanism, Mishlove’s art, prescription drug use
The setting in Thinking Allowed, how Jeff get’s guest on the show
YouTube comments
Moonlight’s interest in the horror and sci-fi film genres
The Quantum Terror, crazy monsters, H.P Lovecraft
Puppets in movies, unique story plots, avant-garde films
The film Labyrinth
Movie settings, horror in film, movie monsters
Character’s in Moonlight’s movies
Horror films set in Labyrinth’s including, I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream, Kingdom Come, and The Cutting Room
Moonlight’s theory of the Science-fiction genre
Found footage, Clive Barker, Hellraiser, Alejandro Jodorowsky
H.R Giger, The foundation of Art Girl in the Window
Emily Bloom
Grindhouse films
Chris’s inspiration from Ray Bradbury, and his work on the documentary Live Forever: The Ray Bradbury Odyssey
Moonlight Art Magazine, Goth culture, comics
Technology, art theory, film innovation, creativity
Hollywood’s demands for films
Moonlight’s cultural influences ranging from Salvador Dali to Tangerine Dream
VHS Tapes, film aesthetics, Folk-Horror
Robert Stark and co-host Pilleater talk to Anatoly Karlin. He blogs at The Unz Review
Topics include:
Anatoly’s article at the Unz Review about his American Decade
Why Anatoly is leaving the United States and going back to Russia
How the United States is becoming more like Europe
T.R. Reid’s book The United States of Europe, where he argued that the EU was emerging as a superpower rivaling the US, but has latter been disproved
How during the Bush era Americans perceived Europeans as “Cheese Eating Surrender Moneys,” but latter Sarkozy became the architect of the war in Libya, and arming Syrian rebels
Another element of America’s Europeanization is the decline in social conservatism, the surge in support for gay marriage, and drug legalization
Anatoly’s political views, which are fairly socially liberal(except for rejecting political correctness, and radical feminism), economically centrist, and closest to Rabbit’s AltLeft U.S. Millennials More Likely to Support Censoring Offensive Speech, especially among university students who are the future elites
The decline in American fertility rates toward European levels
How American politics now resembles Europe in the sense that there are five distinct blocs: Clinton democrats, Sanders socialists, Rubio/Bush etablishment conservatives, Cruz Bible-bashers, and Trump nationalists.
Anatoly’s pre election prediction article US Elections 2016: Let’s MAGA, Not War, and Trump’s support in the rust belt
Trump’s economic policies as a hybrid of supply side economics, and economic nationalism, and the similarities to Putin’s economic policies in Russia
The GINI index of income inequality
The pros and cons of economic automation, and the basic income
Transhumanism, Zoltan Istvan, and his book The Transhumanist Wager
The Bay Area where Anatoly spent most of his time in the US, and how it’s pretty much ideal, but also the most expensive macro-region of the US
California is also home to Ron Unz, Steve Sailer, as well as the “Alt Left” movement(the tiny group of thinkers combining leftist economics with HBD, sane views on gender relations, and a penchant for futurism )
The futurist scene in the Bay Area including Scott Jackisch’s Bay Area Futurists meetup, Health Extensions Salons, Mike Johnson’s Qualia Research Institute, Effective Altruism, and the “techno” faction of NRx
Mass Transit, Bay Area Rapid Transit, how older cities tend to have more integrated transit systems, and why conservatives oppose mass transit
Global Warming, Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius who discovered climate change, debunking climate change deniers, and whether it will benefit arctic regions such as Russia
Observations on other American cities including Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Washington DC, and Pittsburgh
Anatoly’s experience ridding across the nation on Amtrak
Architecture: Skyscrapers, Brutalism, architect John Portman’s 70’s Neofuturism, and Rabbit’s ideal city based on the film Logan’s run
America’s great wilderness and National Park System
Quiplash and Google hangouts Joshua David McKenney was a college roommate of Prince of Queens in college
Professor Jordan Peterson and “Authoritative” psychological traits
The Queer community and fourth-way intersectional feminism.
The Regressive Left
SJW’s hate cisgenger white male homosexuals
“Homosexual men trying to rape women”
How the left fell after the 2nd Obama term
Intersectional feminism as a form of trickery
Black Lives Matter
The arrogance of Feminism about the Hillary campaign
Bernie Sanders and Bay Area Guy’s endorsement
The “progressive stack” and how SJW’s destroyed Occupy Wall Street
The cult of Race Theory San Francisco & Stuff White People Like
Asians and SJWs
Whites and Asians on the same side for “privilege?”
Jim’s background on film, Evil Dead
Jim’s advocacy for Donald Trump
The film setting in Ohio
Comedy in Deadbeat at Dawn
The Cine Masochist review
Philosophy in Deadbeat at Dawn, “the first punk action film.”
Donald F. Glut
The Manson Family
Is the film pornographic? Skinny Puppy and “Spasmolytic.”
Is it fine art?
Gator Green
Veterans
Jim: “America is entering a new phase of nationalism.”
Wes Anderson films
Gregg Araki
Art-house culture, ideology, the marketplace
Jim’s influences
American Guinea Pig: Bouquet of Guts and Gore
Diary of a Deadbeat, Jim’s fans
Robert Stark and co-host Pilleater talk to doll-artist, fashion/beauty illustrator, Joshua David McKenney. He operates Pidgin Doll. You can follow him on Instagram.
Topics:
Joshua’s background in art and interest in dolls
Marina Bychkova and Enchanted Doll
Little Miss No Name and Blythe Dolls
Designer Toys, Juxtopoz, Kidrobot, Vinyl Will Kill
The personality of dolls Davecat and his doll wife, Sidore Kuroneko
Joshua’s illustrations and their Art Deco influence
Japanese art, anime, manga influences
Trevor Brown and sexuality
Kurt Halsey and innocence
Joshua’s designs for his dolls
Print All Over Me
Attitude of clothing
Japanese audience, Avril Lavigne’s Hello Kitty
Sayoko Yamaguchi and her films
Mass production
Joshua’s collaboration with Teen Vogue
Nintendo’s Amiibos and toy culture in the mainstream
Funko’s ReAction Toys
Collecting and Reselling
A doll as a real person
