-How Seb became interested in HBD and selected his moniker after Arthur Jensen
-Seb’s background, being raised Mormon in Spain to a Mexican dad and a White American mom
-The implications of GWAS testing of genetic variants in normalizing HBD
-Why Seb predicts that HBD won’t be normalized until the 2nd half of the Century due to mass climate migration
-How fertility is starting to converge among the races
-Why fertility is crashing the most in 2nd world nations
–The validity of breeder selection theory, that demographics whose fertility crashes earlier are at a long-term advantage
-The growing fertility gap between liberals and conservatives
-How the middle class being more risk averse than both the wealthy and poor explains their lower fertility
-The degree that assortive mating exaggerates genetic traits among class lines
-How intelligent men tend to select more for facial beauty over secondary sexual characteristics
–The reasons for the decline in Mormon fertility
-Whether racial mixing will make society more or less racist in the future
-How non-mixed Whites are bifurcated between woke or colorblind and identitarians
-How Seb predicts Whites, Hispanics, and Asians to a lesser degree, to mix into one same race, while Blacks remain separate
-How mixed race people with White fathers often have different personality types than those with White mothers
-How automation/AI may ease selection pressures against those who are unemployable due to intelligence or personality traits
–The implications of gene editing/embryo selection in the future
-Why Seb is not a hereditarian reductionist which undercounts the importance of nurture
-Why the incel issue is getting much worse in the US than in other developed nations
-Why wokeness is declining in the short term but may resurge in the long term
–Why Seb predicts that society will neither collapse nor get better
-Whether the AI/tech bubble is overhyped
-Competing narratives about accelerating innovation in AI vs technological stagnation
-Robert’s initial prediction that Kamala will win and why Meta Ronin thinks Trump will win (Note: this was recorded about a month ago. Robert’s current prediction is about 55% Trump win/45% Kamala win)
-Whether Substack is turning into Twitter
-Whether AI/automation will select for people who are more charismatic Chads rather than nerds
-Mark Zuckerberg’s archetype and his recent rebrand to humanize his image
-How the view that elites are evil is a cope but has some partial truth
-Why streamlining bureaucracy into UBI makes more sense than mass wealth redistribution
-The argument that UBI could be exploited as a State mechanism of control
-Whether taxing the wealthy more is dysgenic
-The genetic traits selected for by wealth from sociopathy to beauty
–What would the Great Class Swap look like if implemented?
-The film series, Zeitgeist and Fully Automated Luxury Communism
-How the poor are used to scare the middle class into compliance
-How the high cost of living in California selects for conformity
-The pros and cons of both YIMBY and NIMBY policies in California
-How both Meta Ronin and Robert have been exposed to a wide range of class backgrounds, which is the case for artists
-Why middle class people are often boring
-Why bottom up populism rarely succeeds
-How sexuality is often transactional and commodified
-The hypothetical scenario of incels orally servicing high status women
-The intersection of mysticism and sexuality
-The debate about the ethics of letting sexual deviants carry out their fantasies with AI
-How mate selection can often have negative evolutionary outcomes
-How men and women are different spiritually
-How both AI and natural beauty can alchemize the Jungian anima
-Meta Ronin’s life in very scenic Lake Chelan, Washington
-How aesthetics are a great way to win people, especially women, over to your political cause
–Kashif Vikaas’s Meta Right/Meta Modernism project
-Terrence McKenna’s prediction that AI will become a planetary nervous system
-How feasible is it to become financially successful on Substack?
Topics:
-Whether Robert should write an auto-biography or insider history of the Alt-Right
-The Background of Richard Hanania, who transformed from an Alt-Rightest to a pro-immigration libertarian neoliberal
-How both Robert and Richard are honest about their trajectories in a way that most people aren’t
-Meeting Richard Hanania in LA
-How Robert never explicitly identified as Alt-Right, and his earlier views weren’t actually that extreme
-How anti-intellectual Chuds have ruined the online dissident right discourse
-Matt’s political trajectory, voting for Hillary Clinton, and then coming across Robert’s podcast in 2018
-Robert and Matt’s Alt-Center project, after the collapse of the Alt-Right
–How Robert and Matt manifested Dime Square
-How Robert’s views were shaped by class and demographic dynamics in LA
-How Robert felt pressure to signal to more reactionary viewpoints
-Robert’s promotion of enclavism and phase where he adopted the rhetoric of the multicultural left
-Why Robert now has contempt for conspiracy theorists, anti-Semites, and rightwing populists
-The quasi-religious notion of having to repent for bigoted views rather than evolving
-How people are unaware of how their subconscious, and factors like social status, shape their political views
-How American society places negative moral value on loserdom
-How Robert subconsciously had the same views he has now from an early age
-Narratives about populism vs elitism, and whether hating the rich is a cope
-Why Matt considers Robert’s philosophical views fundamentally rightwing
-Robert’s Aristocratic Radicalism
-Do we need technocracy to manage social status?
-Matt’s upcoming publishing project, New Ritual Press, which will republish Robert’s novel, Vaporfornia
-How Robert is not emotionally invested in the election
-Robert’s article on the Politics of Oral
-Ancient Problemz’s upper middle class Jewish background and exposure to wealth
-The mass suburban affluence of the 1990s
-The late 90s/00s raunch culture with movies like American Pie, Wild Things, and Cruel Intensions
-American Beauty’s portrayal of upper middle class suburbia
-The 00s moral panic about oral
-Why oral is upper middle class and White coded
-Ancient Problemz hearing from gentile men in college that Jewish women are orally gifted
-How elites and proles are more degenerate while the middle class are prudes
-How the upper middle class and wealthy are discrete about their sexuality
-How people signal about politics and sexuality
-How natural-looking understated cosmetic surgery is a status signal for the wealthy
-The degree of validity to various anti-Semitic tropes
-Why rich high status women won’t let low status men go down on them for the same reason that BLM fizzled out
-Neo puritanism about sexuality
-Why zoomers are screwed up psychologically and sexually
-Why natalists should live by example
-Why physiognomy, the science of physical appearance, is legit
-Intro song: Brian is the Most Beautiful by Memo Boy
Adem’s background as a former Marxist and Sam Harris Centrist Liberal, and how he is now politically homeless
-Was Trump surviving an act of God?
-The current online scene that is more open, decentralized, and culturally oriented
-Is Dime Square a cursed brand?
-Adem’s advocacy for a new Hippie movement
-How the Hippies failed to fulfill spiritual perennialism
-Adem’s unique theological view of God
-Our recent trip to Sedona and its spiritual significance
-“Starkattack’s” heroism in Sedona with the power of friendship
-Adem’s positive and mythical experience attending a Walford Steiner School
-How science and spirituality are fundamentally interlinked
–Our experience with and the spiritual attributes of magic mushrooms
-How shrooms transformed Adem into an Aryan
-The effects of using a soundtrack for Mixtape Hyperborea
-The book’s off the wall humor
-Why friends should call each other racial slurs
-The spiritual component of masculinity
-How male social hierarchies are formed
-Whether the tribal village-like environment of HS should be recreated for adults
-The esotericism of nostalgia
Robert Stark and co-host Francis Nally (Pilleater) talk to Rajeev Ram about the Indian diaspora, caste, HBD, theology, and America’s identity crisis. Rajeev is a 2nd generation Indian American of a Tamil Brahmin background. He is originally from Arizona, worked in tech in the Bay Area, and now resides in a small town in Tennessee. Rajeev’s values include, openness, pluralism, creativity, fraternal comradery, localism, and freedom of association, and he is allied with some aspects of the Right now. Subscribe to his substack, The Cactus Brahmin Testimonials and follow him on X/Twitter.
Topics:
Rajeev’s political journey
Rajeev’s friendship with the podcaster Walt Bismarck
Why syncretic politics makes sense
The HBD implications of the Indian caste system
Robert’s new religion that fuses Theosophy with HBD
How Brahmin vs Vaishya archetypes play out in the West
Economic niches among various Indian subgroups
Differences between North and South Indians
Pre vs post-1990 Indian immigrants, and how the latter tends to view America as an economic zone
Is the brain drain from India to the US ending?
Rajeev’s thoughts on growing anti-Indian animus
Whether White Americans will become more tribal in the future
America’s future of multi-polar enclavism, with parallels to India
Whether an immigration moratorium would delay balkanization and maintain civic nationalism
Whether enclavism would be difficult for assimilated minorities like Rajeev
Embracing a Freudian approach to politics
Why immigration restriction basically requires mass automation
Walt’s idea for a “grand bargain” where illegal immigrants are given legal status in exchange for a guarantee that they will never be given the right to vote
The case for a Rightwing Urbanism and pro-White YIMBYism
Do you need restricted covenants etc. to sell YIMBYism to suburbanites?
Is NIMBYism necessary to prevent a mass brain drain from the interior?
Gentrification as the future of the right and the opposite of White Flight
Walt’s desire for a “High Openness Right” that resembles the early Alt Right
Topics:
–Colin Wilson’s study of consciousness
-Robert’s art, Substack writings, and novels
-Mark Fisher’s Capitalist Realism
–Robert’s case for Theosophy
-Robert’s mystical experience at June Lake
-contrasting Neoplatonism and Gnosticism, in their approach to theurgy, aesthetics and the natural world
-can ugly things be beautiful or divine?
-channeling the fire of youth
-revisiting Robert’s first podcast with Matt from 2018
-rediscovering the song, 9pm (Till I Come)
-occultist, genetic, political, and social dynamics to oral acts
-A critique of the moral authoritarianism and lack of pluralism of Abrahamic faiths
-how we should approach occultism
-prediction that America will have another religious revival
–California’s pan-enclavism
-thoughts on neo-reactionary critiques of democracy, the case for proportional inequality, and how to select elites
-the Art Fascist vs the Warrior Fascist
Topics:
Shane’s media coverage, including from Spin Magazine and E! True Hollywood Story regarding Dana Plato
Different interpretations of Satanism
Why Shane considers Satanism an artform but not ideological/political
Hollywood adopting Satanic icons for shock value
Avant Garde Hate and the Angry White Male Tour Aleister Crowley’s occultism and Helena Blavatsky’s Theosophy
Transgressive art as the chaos magic of today
Correspondence with serial killers in prison, including Dorothea Puente, John Wayne Gacy and Richard Ramirez
Collecting and selling serial killer and true crime memorabilia Netflix’s Dahmer, and the Dahmer/The Silence of the Lambs connection
The role of sexual repression with serial killers and mass shooters Jim Goad, Adam Parfrey, Boyd Rice, and Peter Sotos
The Mike Diana Obscenity Trial and pre-internet cancel culture
The pre-internet vs current counter-culture