{"id":3943,"date":"2017-03-04T00:53:37","date_gmt":"2017-03-04T00:53:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/?p=3943"},"modified":"2019-06-17T18:34:26","modified_gmt":"2019-06-17T18:34:26","slug":"robert-stark-talks-to-rabbit-and-greg-johnson-about-the-alt-left-dilemma-aesthetics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/?p=3943","title":{"rendered":"Robert Stark talks to Greg Johnson about the Alt Left Dilemma"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Aesthetics-.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3944 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Aesthetics-.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"424\" height=\"290\" srcset=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Aesthetics-.jpg 2889w, https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Aesthetics--300x205.jpg 300w, https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Aesthetics--768x525.jpg 768w, https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Aesthetics--1024x700.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 424px) 100vw, 424px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Robert Stark, co-host <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCZM4HLJJ75VhYvtRnq5dA9w\">Pilleater<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/altleft.com\/\">AltLeft<\/a> blogger Rabbit talk to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.counter-currents.com\/\">Counter-Currents<\/a>\u00a0editor Greg Johnson.<\/p>\n<p>Topics:<\/p>\n<p>The Concept of the Left Wing of the Alt Right; The Alt Left<br \/>\nGreg Johnson&#8217;s\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.counter-currents.com\/2010\/12\/west-coast-white-nationalism\/\">essay on SWPL Identity<\/a>\u00a0and Rabbit&#8217;s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/altleft.com\/2015\/11\/14\/a-clockwork-greenshirt-introducing-the-alt-left\/\">Alt Left Manifesto<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hsKOmEZ-b-o\">Millennial Woes&#8217; talk with Rabbit and Greg Johnson about the Alt Left<\/a><br \/>\nThe\u00a060&#8217;s Left Counter-Culture as a fusion of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/J._R._R._Tolkien\">Tolkien<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0Marcuse, and the need to reclaim the positive attributes of the left, such as ecology, historic preservation, and anti-consumerism<br \/>\nThe Alt Left dilemma identifying with SWPL Culture, and urban aesthetics, while supporting forms of identitarianism that often lack strong aesthetic visions<br \/>\nThe lack of cultural sophistication among conservatives, and the left&#8217;s monopoly on cultural institutions<br \/>\nSuburbia as a by product of the middle class being cleansed out of cities, and the need to sustain a strong urban middle class<br \/>\nAffordable family formation<br \/>\nThe\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com\/2015\/05\/06\/basic-income-vs-welfare\/\">Basic income<\/a>, how it should be implemented, and who it should favor<br \/>\nPutting caps on high incomes with the exception of artist and inventors<br \/>\nThe Nietzschean concept of the artist as the ruler<br \/>\nThe conservative outlook that judges people on their material\u00a0wealth over their aesthetic taste, and creative potential<br \/>\nOverpopulation, and how the ideal is to have immigration reduction with a stable or slowly rising birthrate<br \/>\nGreg&#8217;s experience living in San Francisco and Berkeley, <a href=\"https:\/\/stuffwhitepeoplelike.com\/2008\/03\/23\/91-san-francisco\/\">San Francisco as a SWPL Utopia<\/a>, and the aesthetic and ecological attributes of the region<br \/>\nThe\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Transamerica_Pyramid\">Transamerica Pyramid<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Embarcadero_Center\">Embarcadero Center<\/a>\u00a0in San Francisco<br \/>\nRabbit&#8217;s interest in Mid-Century Space Age aesthetics, and his observations going to Mid-Century Modern home tours<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Frank_Lloyd_Wright\">Frank Lloyd Wright<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Art_Deco\">Art Deco<\/a>, which was a\u00a0heroic vision of the future with respect for tradition; Art Deco in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/artdeco.org\/\">New York<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.arcadiapublishing.com\/9780738547343\/San-Francisco-Art-Deco\">San Francisco<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Film_noir\">Film noir<\/a>, and the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Blade_Runner\">Blade Runner<\/a><br \/>\nDavid Lynch&#8217;s Archeo-Futurist aesthetic in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dune_(film)\">Dune<\/a>, and\u00a0ruin porn<br \/>\nThe tradition of right wing modernism;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Futurism#Italian_Futurism\">Italian Futurism<\/a>\u00a0which\u00a0captured the vitality, optimism, and new possibilities created by\u00a0technology<br \/>\nThe concept of degenerate art, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=N6rPtmiJ678\">distinguishing between modernism and postmodernism<\/a><br \/>\nDefining what is degenerate; Robert and Pilleater&#8217;s show on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/?p=3667\">Avant Garde Film<\/a><\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-3943-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Alt-Left-Dilema.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Alt-Left-Dilema.mp3\">https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Alt-Left-Dilema.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/Greg-Johnson-Alt-Left-Dilema.mp3\">Click Here<\/a> to download!<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Artrstark\/\"><span style=\"color: #1a0dab;\">Check out Robert Stark&#8217;s Paintings!<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<form action=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/cgi-bin\/webscr\" method=\"post\" target=\"_top\"><input name=\"cmd\" type=\"hidden\" value=\"_s-xclick\" \/><br \/>\n<input name=\"hosted_button_id\" type=\"hidden\" value=\"75RF3EG8CMWVE\" \/><br \/>\n<input title=\"PayPal - The safer, easier way to pay online!\" alt=\"Donate\" name=\"submit\" src=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/en_US\/i\/btn\/btn_donateCC_LG.gif\" type=\"image\" \/><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/en_US\/i\/scr\/pixel.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/><\/form>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Robert Stark, co-host Pilleater, and AltLeft blogger Rabbit talk to Counter-Currents&nbsp;editor Greg Johnson. Topics: The Concept of the Left Wing of the Alt Right; The Alt Left Greg Johnson&rsquo;s&nbsp;essay on SWPL Identity&nbsp;and Rabbit&rsquo;s&nbsp;Alt Left Manifesto Millennial Woes&rsquo; talk with Rabbit and Greg Johnson about the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/?p=3943\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Robert Stark talks to Greg Johnson about the Alt Left Dilemma<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[542,549,195,221,623,457,629,362,712,598,554,117,583,346,459,795,741,713,883,601,12,4,201,428,653,884,548,532,449,3,742,885,718,184,309,624,68,600,411,475,310,7,169,737,604,694,527,627,304,677,75,705,681],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3943","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aesthetics","category-alternative-left","category-alternative-right","category-american-culture","category-architecture","category-art","category-art-deco","category-basic-income","category-berkeley","category-blade-runner","category-cities","category-conservatives","category-consumerism","category-cultural-marxism","category-culture","category-cyberpunk","category-david-lynch","category-demographics","category-dune","category-dystopia","category-economics","category-environment","category-eugenics","category-film","category-film-noire","category-frank-lloyd-wright","category-futurism","category-greg-johnson","category-historic-preservation","category-immigration","category-italian-futurism","category-j-r-r-tolkien","category-lafayette-ca","category-leftism","category-materialism","category-mid-century-modern","category-middle-class","category-neon","category-new-york","category-nietzsche","category-overdevelopment","category-overpopulation","category-philosophy","category-pilleater","category-rabbit","category-retro-futurism","category-san-francisco","category-skyscrapers","category-swpl","category-utopia","category-wealth","category-wyndham-lewis","category-zoning"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3943","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3943"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3943\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9080,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3943\/revisions\/9080"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3943"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3943"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3943"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}