{"id":14793,"date":"2026-02-19T00:02:34","date_gmt":"2026-02-19T00:02:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/?p=14793"},"modified":"2026-02-19T00:02:41","modified_gmt":"2026-02-19T00:02:41","slug":"robert-stark-interviews-vincent-mcleod-about-alt-centrism-spirituality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/?p=14793","title":{"rendered":"Robert Stark interviews Vincent McLeod about Alt-Centrism &#038; Spirituality\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM-.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-14798\" src=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM-.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"393\" height=\"393\" srcset=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM-.jpg 400w, https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM--300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM--150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 393px) 100vw, 393px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Robert Stark speaks with New Zealand based author, Vincent Jamie McLeod of <a href=\"https:\/\/vjmpublishing.nz\/\">VJM Publishing<\/a> about his religion, <a href=\"https:\/\/vjmpublishing.nz\/?cat=27\">Elementalism<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/vjmpublishing.nz\/?p=2168\">ideology of alt-centrism<\/a>. Vincent has a psychology degree from the University of Canterbury, is the author of numerous books including, <a href=\"https:\/\/us.amazon.com\/Elemental-Elementalism-scripture-religion-Aquarius-ebook\/dp\/B09QQPQGJF?ref_=ast_author_dp_rw&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.hHbPZMB5ARaGQZNdtKOPhhJXkJvkRKWuTPz1qinbysWSW03TvSjcbR-HfMxXLmcLgECUSdtb7Pg1Dw66Nval7mxMZ-8ZJyejMRgesVuQjlqa-RlCu0r1WKkiqB2hqzNnXljcCXQDC3OqrLHfN285GpUFUn_CHXWIydQpmCbm8Na4UDRnyeL0GqHA_witBZ2egStvfMENJi7K16GPUnywpzjcgjbi83yauoSXNH3DJvc.YwMmNCz-pLe0OusTeBq8AvMaRgVEpyS5Dj12bNt1s_E&amp;dib_tag=AUTHOR\">Elemental Elementalism: The holy scripture of the religion of the Age of Aquarius<\/a>, and has an\u00a0upcoming book, <a href=\"https:\/\/vjmpublishing.nz\/?p=32164\">The Alternative Centrism Manifesto<\/a> that deals with issues like health, education, justice, and defense, which will be released in 2 years. <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/VJMPub\">Follow Vincent on Twitter<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Topics:<br \/>\n-How the term &#8220;massage&#8221; is pronounced in New Zealand<br \/>\n-How Vincent got into the occult due to becoming disillusioned with psychology<br \/>\n-How consciousness and the Divine are one and thus perfect<br \/>\n-How the meaning of life is entertaining the Gods and overcoming ignorance<br \/>\n-Near death experiences and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qgQHZSDjXkI\">Dr. Jeffrey Long&#8217;s research\u00a0<\/a><br \/>\n-How NDE&#8217;s are similar to DMT trips<br \/>\n-How this world is a downward emanation or dream of the Divine<br \/>\n-How the Elementalist principle of entertaining the Gods overlaps with mainstream morality against unnecessary cruelty<br \/>\n-How Elementalist morality is more subjective than Abrahamic (eg. violence against an invader is morally sanctioned)<br \/>\n-A total rejection of atheist materialism, nihilism, and Abrahamic moral authoritarianism<br \/>\n-How Alt-Centrism is downstream from Elementalism<br \/>\n-Why Vincent rejects the notion that human nature is inherently flawed or sinful<br \/>\n-How the new Alt-Center ideology will have to address AI and automation<br \/>\n-How Alt-centrism fills the vacuum of the flawed existing 5 ideologies of the establishment and dissident lefts and rights, and the establishment center<br \/>\n-How Alt-Centrism takes and rejects aspects from all these ideologies (eg. establishment center is right about finding peace over endless conflict)<br \/>\n-How leftists operate under Abrahamic moral authoritarianism<br \/>\n-How to find balance between order, which leads to authoritarianism, and libertinism which leads to degeneracy<br \/>\n-Vincent&#8217;s support for Plato&#8217;s ideal of the philosopher king with support from the warrior caste while merchants and proles should be kept out of politics<br \/>\n-In contrast with hyper masculine Alt-Right and feminine Left, the Alt-Center supports an embrace of all gender archetypes<br \/>\n-How the Alt-Right is correct in its critique of the current system but comes short at offering solutions<br \/>\n-How the entire racial dichotomy from extreme ethnocentrism of right, colorblindness of center, and wokeness of left have failed<br \/>\n-How a proper approach to race starts with acknowledging observable realities<br \/>\n-Why <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/R\/K_selection_theory\">k-selected peoples<\/a> are more appreciative of beauty over utilitarianism<br \/>\n-Contrasting the Theosophical and Elementalist spiritual approach with the more materialist approach of human bio diversity<br \/>\n-Why politics exists because God dreams up everything as entertainment, which is what people want from politics<br \/>\n-How our low trust society is caused by materialism and rejecting the spiritual<br \/>\n-How pure consciousness is bliss and depression and anxiety can come from identifying with the physical<br \/>\n-How psychedelics introduced Vincent to spirituality<br \/>\n-How Elementalism is similar and different from Robert&#8217;s new religion of <a href=\"https:\/\/robertstark.substack.com\/p\/new-religion\">Cosmoplatonism<\/a><\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-14793-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM-interview-.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM-interview-.mp3\">https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM-interview-.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/VJM-interview-.mp3\">Click Here<\/a> to download!<\/p>\n<p>Checkout Robert Stark\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Artrstark\/\">Facebook page<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Starkian7789\">Twitter<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/robertstarkart77\/\">Instagram<\/a>,\u00a0<a class=\"yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC0alUlSiilKhbtvty3Rjn3g\">Stark Truth TV<\/a>, novel\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lulu.com\/en\/us\/shop\/robert-stark\/vaporfornia\/paperback\/product-94zmj9.html?page=1&amp;pageSize=4\">Vaporfornia<\/a><\/em>, and subscribe to his <a href=\"https:\/\/robertstark.substack.com\/people\/15918522-robert-stark\">Substack<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robert Stark speaks with New Zealand based author, Vincent Jamie McLeod of VJM Publishing about his religion, Elementalism, and ideology of alt-centrism. Vincent has a psychology degree from the University of Canterbury, is the author of numerous books including, Elemental Elementalism: The holy scripture of the religion of the Age of Aquarius, and has an&nbsp;upcoming &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/?p=14793\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Robert Stark interviews Vincent McLeod about Alt-Centrism &#038; Spirituality\u00a0<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[542,1061,195,1014,362,203,299,1426,459,539,648,713,417,1004,710,12,422,1305,521,505,70,184,309,53,171,1374,1060,170,707,494,169,1327,172,622,86,249,606,136,132,605,1338,1404,1429,257],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14793","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aesthetics","category-alt-center","category-alternative-right","category-automation","category-basic-income","category-capitalism","category-christianity","category-cosmoplatonism","category-culture","category-death","category-democracy","category-demographics","category-despair","category-dreams","category-drugs","category-economics","category-gender","category-gnosticism","category-hinduism","category-human-bio-diversity","category-iq","category-leftism","category-materialism","category-mental-illness","category-morality","category-neoplatonism","category-new-zealand","category-nihilism","category-occultism","category-personality-types","category-philosophy","category-plato","category-political-correctness","category-politics","category-psychology","category-race-relations","category-radical-center","category-religion","category-social-trust","category-socialism","category-spirituality","category-theosophy","category-vincent-jamie-mcleod","category-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14793","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=14793"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14793\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14806,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14793\/revisions\/14806"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=14793"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=14793"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/starktruthradio.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=14793"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}